Comments on: The Vicious Circle of Corruption https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2024/09/06/the-vicious-circle-of-corruption/ Truth and Reason Mon, 09 Sep 2024 11:04:50 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.5.5 By: Middle of Everywhere https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2024/09/06/the-vicious-circle-of-corruption/#comment-284288 Mon, 09 Sep 2024 11:04:50 +0000 https://www.thisdaylive.com/?p=1009811#comment-284288 In reply to the masked one.

This, as Steve Clemons says in his Al Jazeera programme of the same name: "And this is the bottom line!"

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By: Middle of Everywhere https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2024/09/06/the-vicious-circle-of-corruption/#comment-284289 Mon, 09 Sep 2024 10:07:07 +0000 https://www.thisdaylive.com/?p=1009811#comment-284289 In reply to Sarah.

When army personnel (i.e. those who are already there) are resigning from the military due to poor pay & low morale?… Come, Mr Olusegun Adeniyi, pray, why would you yourself not come to join the military yourself?

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By: Mystic mallam https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2024/09/06/the-vicious-circle-of-corruption/#comment-284274 Mon, 09 Sep 2024 08:10:32 +0000 https://www.thisdaylive.com/?p=1009811#comment-284274 In reply to Sarah.

You know, right? Nigeria must be secured – but it was the North that brought Nigeria here, right? It was also the North that for 8 years, supervised insecurity metastasize across Nigeria, right? And, on assuming power, PBAT rightly or wrongly handed back vital aspects of Nigeria’s security architecture to the North, right? If yes, why has the North failed to seek to secure every inch of our country….? So, why should the presidency revert to the North before the Awalokans have had their fill of Oil and Gas money? And for your information, if you don’t already know, Mr. Tinubu has already locked down 2027 – its a matter of cash which he’s raking-in in stupendous abundance. See why the wise man advised that you, Sarah, in particular, you be careful what you pray for, that you might get it – which you’ve gotten in PBAT – remember – ”even if he was to be wheeled into Aso Villa”, right?

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By: Sarah https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2024/09/06/the-vicious-circle-of-corruption/#comment-284127 Sat, 07 Sep 2024 21:58:11 +0000 https://www.thisdaylive.com/?p=1009811#comment-284127 In reply to the masked one.

Presidency should revert to the North in 2027.
All of TOFF have the same ideology, only age difference. Nigeria needs a leader that will recruit enough (i.e minimum 1million) fully armed personnel to permanently secure every inch of our country and will NEVER dehumanise our people for sake of policy orthodoxy.

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By: Sarah https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2024/09/06/the-vicious-circle-of-corruption/#comment-284126 Sat, 07 Sep 2024 21:58:11 +0000 https://www.thisdaylive.com/?p=1009811#comment-284126 In reply to the masked one.

Presidency should revert to the North in 2027.
All of TOFF have the same ideology, only age difference. Nigeria needs a leader that will recruit enough (i.e minimum 1million) fully armed personnel to permanently secure every inch of our country and will NEVER dehumanise our people for sake of policy orthodoxy.

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By: Sarah https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2024/09/06/the-vicious-circle-of-corruption/#comment-284125 Sat, 07 Sep 2024 20:29:53 +0000 https://www.thisdaylive.com/?p=1009811#comment-284125 In reply to Mystic mallam.

Presidency should revert to the North in 2027.
Nigeria needs a leader that will recruit enough fully armed personnel to permanently secure every inch of our country and will NEVER dehumanise our people for sake of policy orthodoxy.

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By: Mystic mallam https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2024/09/06/the-vicious-circle-of-corruption/#comment-284121 Sat, 07 Sep 2024 12:30:40 +0000 https://www.thisdaylive.com/?p=1009811#comment-284121 In reply to Sarah.

Incredible Sarah – so Tinubu is not anywhere near the messiah you and your gang foisted on a limping Nigeria? Now that he's at the cusp of finally putting it to eternal rest, to whom would you wish he hands over the cadaver – Osinbajo perhaps?

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By: Mystic mallam https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2024/09/06/the-vicious-circle-of-corruption/#comment-284120 Sat, 07 Sep 2024 12:26:57 +0000 https://www.thisdaylive.com/?p=1009811#comment-284120 On this subject matter, only Mr. Osuntokun makes sense among my hundreds of Awalokan friends. Yes, Tinubu is fixated on exploiting the immense powers of the presidency to enrich himself beyond the profoundly obscene, and the beneficiary constituencies in the North of our flawed union would not stand for a change that denies them opportunities for robbing Peter Jumbo to pay Pula Buhari, to keep enjoying the sweet, if ultimately poisonous fruits of feudal privilege, entitlement, nepotism and fantastic corruption. Yet, as Osuntokun has aptly noted, in he mid and/or long term, given where we are right now, only that drastic change of return to federalism could possibly salvage the idea of a sovereign union of Nigeria.

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By: the masked one https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2024/09/06/the-vicious-circle-of-corruption/#comment-284077 Sat, 07 Sep 2024 05:17:24 +0000 https://www.thisdaylive.com/?p=1009811#comment-284077 In reply to Sarah.

And what CREDIBLE ALTERNATIVE have you? Among the TOFF? Trial and error?

My take is, Tinubu MUST preside beyond 2027. That is the ONLY CREDIBLE ALTERNATIVE for a PEACEFUL rebirth of independent nations out of this failed entity. Anything other than this is courting anarchy.

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By: Sarah https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2024/09/06/the-vicious-circle-of-corruption/#comment-284074 Sat, 07 Sep 2024 03:32:55 +0000 https://www.thisdaylive.com/?p=1009811#comment-284074 In reply to the masked one.

See photo attached to comment for 2 unforced errors upon which Team Sarah now assert that President Tinubu has failed and MUST NOT preside beyond 2027.

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By: the masked one https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2024/09/06/the-vicious-circle-of-corruption/#comment-284073 Sat, 07 Sep 2024 03:21:33 +0000 https://www.thisdaylive.com/?p=1009811#comment-284073 In reply to Sarah.

"Tinubu should NOT continue after 2027. APC should pressure him to step down"???

What a wicked irony! A man described as the "fittest" to be president should be "pressured" to forgo a second tenure after just 15 months in office?
It is either someone is not fair to his judgement or an admission of intellectual dishonesty. A case of poor diagnosis and prognosis!
One had thought the TOFF prescription was borne out of deep thinking and intellectual rigour?
Well, it is too late in day to cry. The head is off, already. Tinubu should rather be "pressured" to go for a second tenure in other to finish the destruction of this "geographical expression" for the phoenisces within the entity to emerge. This is how new nations are birthed!

Presuring Tinubu to step down (or step aside) and forego a second tenure is treasonable felony! So, you are stuck, dude!

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By: Catalyst https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2024/09/06/the-vicious-circle-of-corruption/#comment-284048 Fri, 06 Sep 2024 14:36:47 +0000 https://www.thisdaylive.com/?p=1009811#comment-284048 From the tone of columnist, all hope have been lost about south west president engineering a new Nigeria. These enclave , populated by Yoruba fancied themselves as progressives. They dominated the press before the advent of social media. From their actions, they are more conservative than the northern Nigeria. Tinubu regime will end their hypocrisy about their self promotion as the most sophisticated tribe in Nigeria nay Africa. During Obasanjo presidency, they disowned him . The labeled it northern imposition. Today, Tinubu is more oduduwa than Nigerian. He Tinubu is a member of Nadeco, adherent of sovereign national conference, restructuring, devolution of power etc then. But, today, we are seeing reenactment of Abacha regime…. Leaders who valued family interest over national interest. The educated morons and fake human rights activist from Afonjas nationalist all have gone mute. One Tatalamo Alaou (a columnist of Nation newspaper) did wrote in his article during Buhari ( jihadist regime) that APC was in hand of conservatives, and once the progressive wing ( Tinubu south west) capture power, Nigeria will be redirected to prosperity. Yoruba Ronu.

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By: the masked one https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2024/09/06/the-vicious-circle-of-corruption/#comment-284024 Fri, 06 Sep 2024 05:12:51 +0000 https://www.thisdaylive.com/?p=1009811#comment-284024 Akin, my comment was termed spam for some reasons best known to Thisday.
However, I could not share in your conclusion that Tinubu's leadership problems was his inability to yield to the entitlement syndrome of the North even if it was convenient for you to ignore his gross incompetence and cluelessness.
The fact remains that in this marriage of convenience between the North and the South West they are not equal partners. It also explained why all the professions to One Nigeria were mere empty smoke. It also explained why corruption would remain the code of conduct for governance, and why oil thieves would never be caught.
Need I say, it also foreclosed any attempt to reformation, either constitutional or fiscal federalism.
Simply put, this is a failed state! The earlier we come to terms with it, the better!

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By: Sarah https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2024/09/06/the-vicious-circle-of-corruption/#comment-284009 Fri, 06 Sep 2024 04:10:22 +0000 https://www.thisdaylive.com/?p=1009811#comment-284009 In reply to Middle of Everywhere.

Nigeria's progress was set back irrevocably by our Army's Coups D'etat starting in 1966 and Civil War 1967/70. Unfortunately our Army abolished Regionalism and created 36 States. Most of which are financially unviable.
It will require significant cost to revert back to 3 regions.
Our best option is to now persist on the longer road to incremental progress.
Any attempt to resort to Coup D'etat or Secession will unleash another round of unpredictable outcomes, like 1966 killings and Civil War.
Q.E.D

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By: Interessant https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2024/09/06/the-vicious-circle-of-corruption/#comment-283997 Fri, 06 Sep 2024 03:58:12 +0000 https://www.thisdaylive.com/?p=1009811#comment-283997 It is interesting sometimes to find people who deliberately go into government to look for money to pay the humongous school fees of thier children abroad. Sometimes you wonder why people remain corrupt despite so many messages from the mosques and the churches nowadays. There is need for deep introspection when corruption is involved. This is why some have suggested restructuring —a proper one. Not restructuring that you gather some people in a hall to bribe them with millions of dollars in the name of confab, and nothing changed thereafter .

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By: Middle of Everywhere https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2024/09/06/the-vicious-circle-of-corruption/#comment-283989 Fri, 06 Sep 2024 03:56:37 +0000 https://www.thisdaylive.com/?p=1009811#comment-283989 In reply to Sarah.

"nigeria is work in progress"

Why should only nigeria be a work in progress? Countries poorer than nigeria in 1970 are already nuclear powers. But you are still a work in progress! As a matter of fact nigeria has gotten worse!

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By: UNITED NIGERIA https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2024/09/06/the-vicious-circle-of-corruption/#comment-283972 Fri, 06 Sep 2024 03:20:03 +0000 https://www.thisdaylive.com/?p=1009811#comment-283972 Mr. Akin:

Your obsession for long grammar would not allow you to do some good thinking.

Your continuous deployment of British English in a simple matter just to create a semblance of intellectual overhang, is an imputation of your love for anything colonialism.

Stop heaping the blame of the Nigerian failure of leadership on the Luggardian amalgamation of 1914. Stop blaming Oyibo for the Nigerian inherent propensity for corruption. Failure of leadership in Nigeria can be sincerely attributed to two factors: SEEING NIGERIA AS NOBODY'S BUSINESS and LAYING FOUNDATION FOR WRONG EDUCATION. The two factors are legacies of our post-independence leaders. Remember that merit ends the moment the British left us.

You are saying Buhari is the champion of Nepotism. What of your tribesman, Tinubu? Of course there is a consensus that TINUBU outperform Buhari only in Nepotism. Intellectuals of your ilk would share 70% of the Nigerian problem. The trouble with Nigeria lies with failure of educated people to live above primordial social criminality.

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By: Middle of Everywhere https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2024/09/06/the-vicious-circle-of-corruption/#comment-284011 Fri, 06 Sep 2024 03:14:30 +0000 https://www.thisdaylive.com/?p=1009811#comment-284011 In reply to Sarah.

I started my counting from 1970. As at then nigeria was still better than most countries. In fact, Vietnamese war ended in 1975! By 1970, nigeria had 12 states, not 36.

"Incremental progress" will NOT happen! Not with a retrogressive political structure, diminishing resources, instability, lack of social cohesion, & tripling population growth! THINGS WILL GET MUCH WORSE! The cost of not reverting to regionalism will be much higher than reverting!

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By: Middle of Everywhere https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2024/09/06/the-vicious-circle-of-corruption/#comment-283975 Fri, 06 Sep 2024 02:45:51 +0000 https://www.thisdaylive.com/?p=1009811#comment-283975 In reply to UNITED NIGERIA.

nigeria should never have been created. And the colonial masters did not amalgamate all the provinces because of lack of personnel. It was a deliberate act to sow crises & instability. And they did not apply this strategy peculiarly to nigeria. It was applied differently elsewhere, for instance in Rwanda & Burundi. The reason for "Seeing nigeria as nobody's business" is what he explained here… Ultimately nigeria will also NEVER achieve stability or make progress withOUT regional autonomy… But you are on point about the unprecedented nepotism of Tinubu!

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By: Middle of Everywhere https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2024/09/06/the-vicious-circle-of-corruption/#comment-283971 Fri, 06 Sep 2024 01:54:41 +0000 https://www.thisdaylive.com/?p=1009811#comment-283971

The challenge of this is that no status quo power, including the incumbent president, would want to work for the diminution of the awesome powers of the Nigerian President.

This is an "insincere" argument usually "deliberately" deployed to make "excuses" for incumbents not to embark on restructuring. (It is not peculiar to you!). In what way does devolution of powers reduce the powers of the nigerian president? How does the American federal system diminish the power of American presidents both at home & abroad? Pray, what does he need all powers to himself except for performance? So how does devolution diminish his powers except if he needs exercising them for their own sake? If he needs all powers then he won't need to appoint ministers, at least.

By the same logic, the constituency with the strongest vested interest in the status quo would oppose such a political reform. All this looks like committing class suicide.

This is true to the extent that the constituency in question includes the north & southwest nigeria! Like they also do with the rest of the south on other issues (like in bargaining for power), Y0robas always use the north to oppose change; they front the north as the obstacle to change while being no less opposed themselves, which is why Haruna Mohammed calls them those who run with the hare during the day & hunt with the hounds at night. Is the north the reason Olusegun Adeniyi issues editorials opposing restructuring? Or why Simon Kolawole, Kaode Komolafe, Femi Falana, Kayode Fayemi, etc etc oppose restructuring? Does the north account for why southwest delegates opposed 25% derivation for oil producing states in 2005? Or why they mobilized & sabotaged the 2014 National Conference? Let's not even go back to Aburi (As far as I am aware, only two Y0robas support restructuring: Akin Osuntokun & late Yinka Odumakin!). The idea that the Yoroba supports restructuring owes to the days of the June 12 struggle when they advocated for a Sovereign National Conference. The criminal that is now incumbent were among the leaders. Yet it is the same man that we are now being told cannot possibly restructure

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By: Sarah https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2024/09/06/the-vicious-circle-of-corruption/#comment-283970 Fri, 06 Sep 2024 01:31:19 +0000 https://www.thisdaylive.com/?p=1009811#comment-283970 'Nation Building is a Decades and Centuries Project' – Team Sarah
Nigeria is work-in-progress. We will achieve our desired state in due course with Vision, Tenacity and Persistence.
Our view is that President Tinubu has served his utility for Nigeria. He should step down or be voted out at the next election. Please see attached photo (July 2024) explaining our position.

1) Rotational Presidency: President Tinubu should NOT continue after 2027. APC should pressure him to step down. As a strategist he will not go without a fight. Already Tinubu has created a survival route to side-flank Governors by using fiscal means. He (Federal Government) can now pay Local Governments directly without intervention of Governors.

2) Economy/Petrol Debacle: NNPCL has been subsidising low Petrol cost since May 2023 resulting in US$6billion external debt. NNPCL now needs to recover that amount from their monopoly offtake arrangement with Dang0t3 Refinery. US$6billion international debt will NOT disappear. Refusing to pay may result in seizure of Nigeria's assets overseas.

3) Corruption: Please refer to Singapore model. Public Servants are paid very handsomely, but they face Death Penalty for corruption.

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